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, if i were the obama administration, and i'm not, but i stand here watching this i would've made this a priority. >> there are several efforts underway to get a constitutional amendment that would reverse citizens united. where did -- what's your stand on that? >> well, i think talking about this issue is really important to a modern democracy. we need to recognize where we are. i think we need to recognize that we're in trouble and we need to make changes. constitutional amendment is like climbing mount everest. it's the hardest thing out there you could possibly do. so it may be the only way to get there, but my own view is it is really worth exploring all the other ways to get to where we want to go before saying, "we have to go up and down the mountain to do it." you have to get the super majority in congress to send it to the states to get the super majority of the states. whereas, you know, if you could pass pure disclosure, that would be a start, and that can be done without any super majority of states at all. if you could get the i.r.s. going, if you could get the obama
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